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Dayton and Squirrel-0-Rama

Experimental, Gallery, Outreach,

Last night we had a great meetup. We made and flew Squirrels and two Daytons.

People made the Squirrels from memory. Enough people know how to make them so that’s a good sign.

The Dayton went together very well (and fast). Here is my assessment.

  • The wing had better rigidity than I expected!
  • I flies well with flaps down. I think I will split the aileron into flaps and aileron so people can learn to experiment with that. I’ve done some test since the meetup and it is a great slow flyer.
  • We flew it without trimming. It had a phugoid but I will do some more experiments next time.
  • The paper proves to be light enough.
  • Wheels add a lot of charisma.
  • A few of the laser cuts were the wrong dimensions. Still worked well but I will tweak that stuff for the next run.
  • The assembly and flight are working well enough. After some tweeking to the laser files and the printout, I will attempt a double sided print and do a larger batch for the next revision. In the next build I will make five at once so we can study the flight characteristics further.

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Part Labeling for Dayton Kit

Experimental

One design choice made with the Squirrel was that all the parts can be the same width (easy manual fabrication) and many of the parts are the same (easy differentiation). For instance the Wing Center Rib, two Wing Tips, two Winglet Spars and Fin Spar are all exactly the same size.

The Dayton will have a different audience and purpose so I’m working with a different set of design parameters. Part sameness does not seem to be coming forward. So we need a way of identifying the parts. I am going to burn labels onto the parts for the next few runs of the Dayton prototypes. Initially I’ll raster out print type fonts but I’ll eventually switch to vector stick fonts to speed up the fabrication process.

I just cut out a couple of Daytons and will try and get them tested today. As things stand it will be around 7pm (Sunday, September 16th, 2012) so anybody wanting to come and try one let me know!

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Paper Dayton Experiment

Experimental

I’ve been trying to avoid having a paper wing since it might be heavier and more costly than tissue.

But the wing framing onto tissue paper is trickier with interlocking parts.

But I think I found an alternate way of getting the wing structure to work and fix this issue of interlocking parts.

In a nutshell the leading and trailing edge only run most of the way out to the wing tips. They are short by about an inch. There is also no wing tip ribs! There’s a little less wood so the weight penalty may not be there. Also the aileron and winglet glue seams are dropped.

I’m going to get to one of the labs and cut out another laser design and print this template.

I think this will be interesting. If there is rigidity issues I will look at a curved airfoil and see if I can find an easy way to use that to make the wing better.

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Color Dayton

Experimental

After building laser Daytons I’m ready to make another small batch.

Just for kicks I’ll print these ones in color.

I’m planning the following changes from the first laser version.

  • Shorten tailplane and fin spars.
  • Adding the toothpick grove and cap.
  • Shortening the motor stick.
  • Cutting another part out of the motor stick belly.
  • Consider a different interlocking system for the wing parts.
  • I’m going to try and drop the wing mount doublers by making the wing mount wider. I’ll make the wing seat wider to match.
  • Print flying instructions on the bottom of the tailplane.

I’m going to put more thought into the wing construction. The build on tissue idea is trickier with the interlocking parts. We’ll see if I can come up with something for this revision.

I’m still looking for testers. I am looking for about 20 people (anywhere in the world). You’ll receive a Dayton kit for free. The only thing I’m asking as that you can make it within 2 weeks and can provide feedback. Send me a note at darcy@siteware.com with your current address. Of the 20 I have 8 so far.

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Pub Meet to Assess Dayton Design

Experimental, Outreach,

Did a pub meetup to have another look at the laser Dayton design.

Issues:

  • It’s still tricky to lay out the wing perimeter. Interlocking parts combined with build on tissue has some problems to look at.
  • Small parts are bad. The wing mound doublers are very small. You can see them on the laser cut.
Progress
  • I manually cut one of the fuselage sides to make a gap in it. This is the grove for the toothpick. This worked well so I will include that in the next laser run.
  • The landing gear is only .6g and the plane is 10g. That’s quite promising.
  • Knocking about an inch off the rubber band motor loop makes hand winding easier.
  • The glue stick is only used on four pieces. I’m wondering if it can be dropped. The spars warp a bit when the craft glue is applied but it flattens out in a few minutes. I suspect this will happen as long as we don’t use too much glue.

 

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